A Perrin Geddes & Co. wine glass 1806, the cup shaped bowl engraved with a liver bird above rope collar with step cut base, raised on a diamond knob and octagonal pillar stem and star cut petal edged foot, 10.5cm high. Sold at auction by William Farmer 12th of April 2010 - see link for £390.00.
http://www.fieldingsauctioneers.co.uk/results.asp?menuItemOn=2&start=0&resultsSalesID=56
We can see that the Glass Goblet is in engraved with the Liverpool Coat of Arms, the Liver Bird. This is the Goblet type that the Prince of Wales drank his wine or port from at the important Banquet in Liverpool for the Warrington glass industry. See also:
http://regencyredingote.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/regency-cut-glass/
There is a suggestion from the Victoria & Albert Museum http://www.vam.ac.uk/ that local Warrington glass-cutter John Unsworth, who styled himself 'Manufacturer to His Majesty and to His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales', may have been one of the Glasscutter in Perrin Geddes & Co. This is probably true as John Unsworth operated a glass business in Warrington from 1789. His company was dissolved in 1805 owing debts to his brother in law Peter Stubs who probably organised a job for him in Perrin Geddes & Co.
Peter Stubs File Maker Scotland Road Cockhedge Warrington
1777 - 1958.
What one must realise is that there was no motorized technology in 1806 and the glass engraver was dependant on the quality of a steel files to do their craftwork. We now know that The Warrington Glass Industry was lucky to have Peter Stubs. How else would they be able to do the enteric engraving without a good file? More to the point – John Unsworth gave instructing to Peter Stubs on the quality, type and shape of file needed to do his work. Hence the artistic work of the Glass engraver in Warrington was 15 years ahead of the likes of Sunderland due to the humble steel file.
Peter Stubs steel files were of such high quality compared to other manufactures that they started to put his initials “P.S.” on theirs, which were of inferior workmanship. It affected his business so that in 1805-1806 he had to take out advertisements in the IRIS and the Sheffield Advertiser. In one advertisement he offered a reward £50 for anyone to give information on the whereabouts of the culprits. Peter Stubs’ manufacturing business was unusual in that he had it organised such that he only dealt with retailers and the end user. It took the glass industry in the British Isles another 140 years to eliminate the Glass wholesaler and Manufactures Agent.
Acting on the assumption that Josiah Perrin was a Glasscutter from Bristol we have to presume that he had his own pattern book. We therefore have to presume that Perrin, Geddes & Co. was operating from this pattern book on the more artistic goods that they produced. It is likely that when John Unsworth joined Perrin, Geddes & Co he added his ideas. It is more than probable that the Scottish glass manufactures were copying some of their more ornate designs.
During their three or four week holidays the Liverpool Corporation held a major banquet for the Prince of Wales and his brother, the Duke of Clarence. The Prince of Wales recognised that the design of the goblet from which he was drinking his port was of exceptional quality and design. ” One needs a decent goblet to drink their port". He requested the Mayor (Henry Clay or Thomas Molyneux) to order him a full set with his three feathers emblem on the centre boss. The Mayor not knowing the price of glass insisted that the Liverpool Corporation would pay for same. They ordered 12 decanters; 36 coolers: 6 carafes; 72 Claret glasses; and 72 Port glasses. Joseph Perrin probably informed them that this was insufficient to be considered grand enough for a Prince so Liverpool Corporation increased the quantity by 12 decanters, 48 wine glasses, 48 claret glasses; and 36 goblets; a grand total of 342 items of glassware. The price of the glassware service set came to £1306 and 18 shillings. No flees on Joseph Perrin a nice order for the firm of Perrin, Geddes & Co. It took Perrin, Geddes & Co two years from September 1806 until January 1808 to manufacture the full glass service. Interesting that the Liverpool corporation gave the set of glassware used at the banquet (see photograph Courtesy of Fielding’s Auctioneers) to the Duke of Clarence as they could not afford to buy two glassware sets.
Notes
The Liverpool Advertiser
17th April 1767 just opened in the Old church Alley- The Warrington Wholesale and Retail Warehouse – Where sold on the most reasonable terms – Double and Single Crystal Flint – Cut – Flowered and Plain Glasses of all sorts whatsoever –Josiah Perrin and Co. The will of Josiah Perrin
22th of October 1795
Josiah Perrin left a considerable real estate according to the High Court in 1807. There is one important statement in Joseph Perrin’s will that states that if his daughter Sarah marries a man from Scotland or a man of Scottish parents she will forfeit all right to inherit his estate. Joseph Perrin knew of this statement because in the likely hood of this happening his two children would then inherit all of the estate of Josiah Perrins’. It is probable that over a number of years he encouraged her friendship with a William Geddes a merchant born in Scotland of Scottish parents. The Geddes had originally come to Warrington from Scotland. The Geddes family were major players in the Scottish glass industry in Edinburgh and Glasgow. Sarah married William Geddes on the 13th of July 1802 (I wonder where they married over a blacksmiths forge) and nine months later died 5th July 1803 given birth to her son Archibald. Archibald was now Sarah Geddes heir at law but Joseph Perrins’ now knew that his children were the rightful heir to Josiah Perrins’ estate. The High Court on the 23th of January 1808 vested the estate of Josiah Perrins’ to the children of Joseph Perrin. Josiah the younger and Maria.
It is interesting that Sarah son was called Archibald Geddes as there was an Archibald Geddes involved in the Leith Glass Company in Scotland during the late 18th and 19th Century. The 1861 Scottish Census list an Archibald Geddes born 1803 in Scotland and now living in Lancashire, this would indicate that Sarah Perrins and William Geddes eloped to be married in Scotland and their son was born in Scotland. Interesting that in 1820 an Archibald Geddes born 1803 is listed as a member the Carthusians Monks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthusian
A picture of church alley Liverpool
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liverpoolpictorial/2981412576/lightbox/
Flashback
It is interesting that in 1800 the Liverpool Corporation had paid for a painting of the Duke of Clarence to be commissioned and displayed in the town hall in recognition of his active part in the defence of the slave trade. [The Duke of Clarence was the third sonof George III, and served in the Royal Navy. He later became King William IV, after the death of his brother, George IV, the former Prince Regent. Clarence was indeed, like Banastre Tarleton, MP for Liverpool, a strong proponent of the slave trade.] This has to be one of the reasons he was invited to Liverpool in 1806 for a three or four week holiday at their expense and he also organised an invitation for the Prince of Wales. At the same time in 1806 the people of Liverpool elected William Roscoe to parliament for his role in the abolition of the slave trade. One of the places that the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Clarence visit on the Thursday 18th of September 1806 in Liverpool was the Old Church Day charity School where the Prince of Wales became its’ Patron and donated 100 Guineas.
Note:
Maria Perrin married Joseph Cheetham of Stockport, cotton manufacture in 1810. He died in 1815 and in 1817 Maria is listed as living at the Manor of Mooresbarrow cum Parme.
Marriage: 1 Mar 1778 St Elphins, Warrington, Lancashire,England
Josiah Perrin - Gentleman of Parish of Liverpool
Catharine Seaman - of this Parish
Witness: Wm. Berrey; Hugh Orrett
Married by Licence by: E. Owen Rector
Register: Marriages 1770 - 1784, Page 154, and Entry 183
I will add more information as it becomes available. If you wish to make a contribution in lieu of credit - please e-mail me at glass@inchicore-pressedglass-museum.org.
References
I want to thank Craig Sherwood for guidance in writing this article on the Bank Quay Glassworks and Peter Rogerson
Librarian Warrington Borough Council, Community Services Directorate
Central Library, Museum and Art Gallery
Museum Street
Cultural Quarter
Warrington WA1 1JB
http://museum.warrington.gov.uk/
I also want to thank Kathryn Kane, see link below
http://regencyredingote.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/regency-cut-glass/
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An Eighteenth-century Industrialist Peter Stubs Warrington T.S. Ashton, 1939
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& http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/census-records.htm
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