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Bank Quay Glassworks

The Bank Quay Glassworks Warrington Lancashire

1757-1884

1757-1789 Peter Seaman & Co

The Bank Quay Glassworks which made Flint and bottle glass was opened in 1757 by the four-person partnership of Peter Seaman and Robert Patten (Warrington) - Edward Deane and Thomas Falkner (Liverpool). Peter Seaman, the local innkeeper with the financial backing of the other partners, leased land from Thomas Patten at Bank Quay. The site was undoubtedly chosen to make full use of water transport as Thomas Patten had made the Mersey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersey_and_Irwell_Navigation navigable to Bank Quay so that he could import copper from Ireland for his smelting works at Bank Quay.

1795-1824 Perrin, Geddes & Co.

This nine-person partnership was dissolved on the 30th of June 1824. Three of the partners were deceased - Edward D. Falkner - William Geddes and Amy Seaman. The other partners were Hannah Evans – P Nicholson – Peter Vawdrey - Joseph Flintoft - Marie Flintoft and Josiah Perrin the younger. (Son of Joseph Perrin - Nephew of Josiah Perrin of Josiah Perrin & Co - Glass Merchant)

Notes

Amy Seaman died 27th August 1798

Interesting that John Arthur Borron was the Executors of the late William Geddes. (see 1824 – 1826 Bank Quay Glass Company, below).

1824-1826 Bank Quay Glass Company

This four-person partnership consists of - Edward Falkner (deceased 1824) – John Arthur Borron - David Carruthers - Edward Garven. It was dissolved on the 30th of June 1826.

1826-1848 Bank Quay Glass Company

This four-person partnership consists of John Banastre Falkner [This fellow’s name is interesting, as the MP from Liverpool had been Sir Banastre Tarleton, a soldier during the Revolutionary War in America. It would be interesting to know if this fellow was a relation or just named after the MP. Tarleton was MP when the Prince Regent came to Liverpool in 1806.] - John Arthur Borron – David Carruthers and Edward Garven. By 1833 the company had gone over solely to bottle production as it had become more profitable to produce black bottle metal for export to Ireland after the introduction of the excise tax in Ireland in 1825.

Note:

John Arthur Borron died July 1849 age 77 (Little Woolden Hall Cadishead Warrington) and his wife Mary Geddes died 24th April 1834. She was the daughter of Archibald Geddes Hermitage Park Leith.

1848-1881 Charles H Cartwright & Sons

This three-person partnership consisted of - Charles H Cartwright who took over the Bank Quay Glass Company 1848. In time his two sons joined the business. The partnership was dissolved on the 22th September 1881. Charles H Cartwright died in 1884.

1881-1883 Cartwright Brothers

The two brothers’ partnership, Walther J Cartwright and Thomas J Cartwright, continued the business at the premise now known as the Old Works Bank Quay. It is probable that they had a disagreement and dissolved their partnership on the 23th of August 1883.

1883-1884 T J Cartwright and Co.

Thomas J Cartwright closed the glasswork in 1884 due to completion from the St Helens glass industry. Interesting that Crosfield’s the soap manufacture paid £3000 for the glassworks in September 1893.

“Side Note,”

Peter Seaman (Owner Of The ‘‘Eagle and Child” Inn ) was the descendant of an old and respectable family resident at Middlewich for several generations (Peter Seaman & Co 1757-1789) was the father-in-law of Josiah Perrin as he married his daughter, Catherine in 1778 ( See Notes ) His sisters in law were Amy Seaman (1795-1824 Perrin, Geddes & Co.), Elizabeth married to James Nicholson of Warrington, Mary (wife no 2) married to Daniel Vawdrey and Hannah married to Sir William David Evans, Knight and for many years one of the Benchers of Gray’s Inn, and successively a Chairman of Quarter Sessions, and Vice Chancellor of the county palatine of Lancaster, and the Vice Admiralty Court of Bombay.

1767- 1791 Josiah Perrin & Co the Warrington Wholesale and Retail Warehouse

The popular belief is that Josiah Perrin & Co operated a Glassworks at Bank Quay. It is interesting that he is not listed in the Warrington 1771 rate book. The only evidence that I have found is that in 1767 he set up – The Warrington Wholesale and Retail Warehouse (A Glass Warehouse – see notes - reference the Liverpool Advertiser 1767) at Old Church Alley Liverpool.

It is oblivious that Josiah Perrin had a good knowledge of the glass industry as he was involved in the manufacture of flint glass and bottles at the Old Glasshouse in Hanover Street, Liverpool in 1761 as either a manager or partner with Samuel Woods who is listed as the occupier of the glassworks in The Liverpool Poll book, 1759, 1761 and 1762. From the Poll Book of 1754 and 1761 we learn that William Atherton (Senior and Junior), Isaac Houghton, John Manchester and Daniel Parr are listed as working in the glasshouse. There is a possibility that Thomas Holt and Co acquired the Old Glasshouse in Hanover Streetin 1781. The glassworks was originally started in 1715 by Josia Poole.

We know from an advertisement in the Ibidem 7th of August 1761 that Josiah Perrin was working at the Old Glasshouse. We presume that Josiah Perrin left before the death of Samuel Woods in 1862 and he went to work for Peter Seaman & Co at Bank Quay (see reference, Old Lancashire Glasshouses by Francis Buckley). We now have to presume that Peter Seaman was probably involved in the Warrington Wholesale and Retail Warehouse.

There is a suggestion that Josiah Perrin probably had connections with the Perrins glass-makers of Bristol as the name appears many times in the Bristol’s Poll Lists. It is likely that Josiah Perrin may have been employed in the glass industry in Bristol as a glasscutter. We know that he was buying his glass in Warrington off Peter Seaman & Co and also off the Bristol Glasshouses where Michael Edkins ‘was engraving glass’ (1760-1770).

By 1790 he is listed as selling glass in a warehouse at no 9 water streets Liverpool. In 1791 he handed over or sold The Warrington Wholesale and Retail Warehouse to John Kirk who had been in his employment for three years. At this stage in his life he had accumulated a lot of wealth and around 1791 he bought an estate called the Manor of Mooresbarrow cum Parme.

We have evidence that he sold a cargo of glass in 1776 to Frederick Rhinelander (1743-1805) a leading glass merchant of New York America. It is interesting that in correspondence with Frederick Rhinelander he is known as the Manager of Bank Quay Glasshouse near Warrington. Frederick was not impressed with the price he was charged as the Bristol Glass companies were cheaper. He was charged two shilling and sixpence per dozen for dram bottles as opposed to the eight pence by the Bristol glass companies. I wonder were the Bristol glass companies evading paying the glass duty or was Josiah Perrin extracting maximum profit from the trade. The Bristol Glass companies exporting glass to Frederick Rhinelander in New York from the Liverpool port (due to cheap freight charges) were Richard Cannington & Co of the Temple Gate glassworks and Vigor and Stevens of Thomas Street (1775-1787). Liverpool was the place to be located during the late 18th century as 17% - 20% of all British exports went through Liverpool.

Josiah Perrin was instrumental in setting up Perrin Geddes & Co. He probably had become head of the Seaman family after Peter Seaman died 1787. He acquired the share of Edward Deane and Thomas Falkner the Liverpool merchants with the help of his brothers’ in law.

Joshua Perrin died in 1796 and his only child, Sarah, age 12, became his heir at law. At this time 1796 Joseph Perrin, nephew of Joshua Perrin, probably became involved in Perrin, Geddes & Co. Sarah Perrin died on the 5th of July 1803 age 19. She had one son, Archibald Geddes, but by a “twist of fate” (Reference the will of her late father sees notes) the children of Joseph Perrins’ – Josiah the younger and Maria took over the business.Unbeknownst to himself, in 1767, Josiah Perrin had sown the seeds for the Perrins’ to be the major player in the Warrington glass industry (see also history of Cockhedge Glassworks Scotland Road Warrington) and no better man than Joseph Perrin to continue in his footsteps. He was probably instrumental in making sure that when the Prince of Wales, the soon to be Prince Regent, visited Liverpool on Thursday 18th of September 1806, that Perrin, Geddes & Co had the finest set of glassware ever produced by a British Manufacture during the Regency period on the table for them to drink their port .

A Perrin Geddes & Co. wine glass 1806, the cup shaped bowl engraved with a liver bird above rope collar with step cut base, raised on a diamond knob and octagonal pillar stem and star cut petal edged foot, 10.5cm high. Sold at auction by William Farmer 12th of April 2010 - see link for £390.00.

http://www.fieldingsauctioneers.co.uk/results.asp?menuItemOn=2&start=0&resultsSalesID=56

We can see that the Glass Goblet is in engraved with the Liverpool Coat of Arms, the Liver Bird. This is the Goblet type that the Prince of Wales drank his wine or port from at the important Banquet in Liverpool for the Warrington glass industry. See also:

http://regencyredingote.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/regency-cut-glass/

There is a suggestion from the Victoria & Albert Museum http://www.vam.ac.uk/ that local Warrington glass-cutter John Unsworth, who styled himself 'Manufacturer to His Majesty and to His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales', may have been one of the Glasscutter in Perrin Geddes & Co. This is probably true as John Unsworth operated a glass business in Warrington from 1789. His company was dissolved in 1805 owing debts to his brother in law Peter Stubs who probably organised a job for him in Perrin Geddes & Co.

Peter Stubs File Maker Scotland Road Cockhedge Warrington

1777 - 1958.

What one must realise is that there was no motorized technology in 1806 and the glass engraver was dependant on the quality of a steel files to do their craftwork. We now know that The Warrington Glass Industry was lucky to have Peter Stubs. How else would they be able to do the enteric engraving without a good file? More to the point – John Unsworth gave instructing to Peter Stubs on the quality, type and shape of file needed to do his work. Hence the artistic work of the Glass engraver in Warrington was 15 years ahead of the likes of Sunderland due to the humble steel file.

Peter Stubs steel files were of such high quality compared to other manufactures that they started to put his initials “P.S.” on theirs, which were of inferior workmanship. It affected his business so that in 1805-1806 he had to take out advertisements in the IRIS and the Sheffield Advertiser. In one advertisement he offered a reward £50 for anyone to give information on the whereabouts of the culprits. Peter Stubs’ manufacturing business was unusual in that he had it organised such that he only dealt with retailers and the end user. It took the glass industry in the British Isles another 140 years to eliminate the Glass wholesaler and Manufactures Agent.

Acting on the assumption that Josiah Perrin was a Glasscutter from Bristol we have to presume that he had his own pattern book. We therefore have to presume that Perrin, Geddes & Co. was operating from this pattern book on the more artistic goods that they produced. It is likely that when John Unsworth joined Perrin, Geddes & Co he added his ideas. It is more than probable that the Scottish glass manufactures were copying some of their more ornate designs.

During their three or four week holidays the Liverpool Corporation held a major banquet for the Prince of Wales and his brother, the Duke of Clarence. The Prince of Wales recognised that the design of the goblet from which he was drinking his port was of exceptional quality and design. ” One needs a decent goblet to drink their port". He requested the Mayor (Henry Clay or Thomas Molyneux) to order him a full set with his three feathers emblem on the centre boss. The Mayor not knowing the price of glass insisted that the Liverpool Corporation would pay for same. They ordered 12 decanters; 36 coolers: 6 carafes; 72 Claret glasses; and 72 Port glasses. Joseph Perrin probably informed them that this was insufficient to be considered grand enough for a Prince so Liverpool Corporation increased the quantity by 12 decanters, 48 wine glasses, 48 claret glasses; and 36 goblets; a grand total of 342 items of glassware. The price of the glassware service set came to £1306 and 18 shillings. No flees on Joseph Perrin a nice order for the firm of Perrin, Geddes & Co. It took Perrin, Geddes & Co two years from September 1806 until January 1808 to manufacture the full glass service. Interesting that the Liverpool corporation gave the set of glassware used at the banquet (see photograph Courtesy of Fielding’s Auctioneers) to the Duke of Clarence as they could not afford to buy two glassware sets.

Notes

The Liverpool Advertiser

17th April 1767 just opened in the Old church Alley- The Warrington Wholesale and Retail Warehouse – Where sold on the most reasonable terms – Double and Single Crystal Flint – Cut – Flowered and Plain Glasses of all sorts whatsoever –Josiah Perrin and Co. The will of Josiah Perrin

22th of October 1795

Josiah Perrin left a considerable real estate according to the High Court in 1807. There is one important statement in Joseph Perrin’s will that states that if his daughter Sarah marries a man from Scotland or a man of Scottish parents she will forfeit all right to inherit his estate. Joseph Perrin knew of this statement because in the likely hood of this happening his two children would then inherit all of the estate of Josiah Perrins’. It is probable that over a number of years he encouraged her friendship with a William Geddes a merchant born in Scotland of Scottish parents. The Geddes had originally come to Warrington from Scotland. The Geddes family were major players in the Scottish glass industry in Edinburgh and Glasgow. Sarah married William Geddes on the 13th of July 1802 (I wonder where they married over a blacksmiths forge) and nine months later died 5th July 1803 given birth to her son Archibald. Archibald was now Sarah Geddes heir at law but Joseph Perrins’ now knew that his children were the rightful heir to Josiah Perrins’ estate. The High Court on the 23th of January 1808 vested the estate of Josiah Perrins’ to the children of Joseph Perrin. Josiah the younger and Maria.

It is interesting that Sarah son was called Archibald Geddes as there was an Archibald Geddes involved in the Leith Glass Company in Scotland during the late 18th and 19th Century. The 1861 Scottish Census list an Archibald Geddes born 1803 in Scotland and now living in Lancashire, this would indicate that Sarah Perrins and William Geddes eloped to be married in Scotland and their son was born in Scotland. Interesting that in 1820 an Archibald Geddes born 1803 is listed as a member the Carthusians Monks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthusian

A picture of church alley Liverpool

http://www.flickr.com/photos/liverpoolpictorial/2981412576/lightbox/

Flashback

It is interesting that in 1800 the Liverpool Corporation had paid for a painting of the Duke of Clarence to be commissioned and displayed in the town hall in recognition of his active part in the defence of the slave trade. [The Duke of Clarence was the third sonof George III, and served in the Royal Navy. He later became King William IV, after the death of his brother, George IV, the former Prince Regent. Clarence was indeed, like Banastre Tarleton, MP for Liverpool, a strong proponent of the slave trade.] This has to be one of the reasons he was invited to Liverpool in 1806 for a three or four week holiday at their expense and he also organised an invitation for the Prince of Wales. At the same time in 1806 the people of Liverpool elected William Roscoe to parliament for his role in the abolition of the slave trade. One of the places that the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Clarence visit on the Thursday 18th of September 1806 in Liverpool was the Old Church Day charity School where the Prince of Wales became its’ Patron and donated 100 Guineas.

Note:

Maria Perrin married Joseph Cheetham of Stockport, cotton manufacture in 1810. He died in 1815 and in 1817 Maria is listed as living at the Manor of Mooresbarrow cum Parme.

Marriage: 1 Mar 1778 St Elphins, Warrington, Lancashire,England

Josiah Perrin - Gentleman of Parish of Liverpool

Catharine Seaman - of this Parish

Witness: Wm. Berrey; Hugh Orrett

Married by Licence by: E. Owen Rector

Register: Marriages 1770 - 1784, Page 154, and Entry 183

I will add more information as it becomes available. If you wish to make a contribution in lieu of credit - please e-mail me at glass@inchicore-pressedglass-museum.org.


References

I want to thank Craig Sherwood for guidance in writing this article on the Bank Quay Glassworks and Peter Rogerson

Librarian Warrington Borough Council, Community Services Directorate

Central Library, Museum and Art Gallery

Museum Street

Cultural Quarter

Warrington WA1 1JB

http://museum.warrington.gov.uk/

I also want to thank Kathryn Kane, see link below

http://regencyredingote.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/regency-cut-glass/


A- History of glassmaking Warrington. By Scientific Glassblower Paul le Pinnet of SOG Glass Services presented a history of glassmaking at Warrington at a meeting of the North West Section of the Society, of Glass Technology at the World of Glass, St Helens

Old Lancashire Glasshouses by F Buckley F.S.A Society of Glass Technology 1929 volume 13

An Eighteenth-century Industrialist Peter Stubs Warrington T.S. Ashton, 1939

Also visit http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/

& http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/census-records.htm

Liverpool, its commerce, statistics, and institutions by Henry Smithers 1824

Chapmen reference provided by -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapmen

English Glass Imports, 1770 – 1790 by Arlene Palmer Schwind Yarmouth, Maine

http://www.schwind-antiques.com/

http://www.familychest.co.uk/index.htm

Reports of cases argued and determined in the Court of King's Bench, with tables of the names of cases and principal matters.

Author: Edward; Great Britain. Court of King's Bench.

Publisher: London

Printed by A. Strahan for J. Butterworth, 1801-14.

The Gentleman's magazine, Volume 162

The Gentleman's magazine, Volume 21

http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/wiki/Main_Page

- Manchester Archives

Innocent espionage: the La Rochefoucauld brothers' tour of England in 1785

By François La Rochefoucauld (duc de), Alexandre de La Rochefoucauld, Norman Scarfe

http://www.google.ie/books?id=GU0SAAAAYAAJ

House of Commons papers, Volume 31

By Great Britain. Parliament. House of Commons

http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofcountyp03orme/historyofcountyp03orme_djvu.txt

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